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According to a sun press release Oracle will buy Sun: http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp and http://www.oracle.com/sun/index.html.

What does this mean for the future of the Java ecosystem?

See also the discussion on Theserverside.com.

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Nothing will happen to Java. Oracle's entire e-business suite (the primary money maker for Oracle, not their database) is built on java. Oracle has been using java for more than 5 years and is very heavily invested in it's success. This is the primary reason why Oracle buying Sun is a smart deal for Oracle.

As for MySQL, my guess is nothing much changes. Oracle gets, but does not really actively support, open source software. See, for example, the BerkeleyDB. It still exists as open source and is being enhanced. There is a small team working on BerkeleyDB.

Who know, maybe Oracle will let some of their database developers loose into the MySQL code and let them make vast improvements.

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My prediction: IBM will fork Java (the JDK) within 1 - 2 years from now.

If IBM was on the ball, they could seize this opportunity to introduce the next JVM now, since Oracle is not exactly known for their spirit of cooperation and sharing.

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Well, I for one look forward to seeing what Oracle will do with the JVM, whether they will continue the "community process" (I hope they don't), how this will change the Oracle DBMS, and indeed what they will do with MySQL.

Java has been pretty stagnant for years now, and the Java 7 effort has been timid. Oracle is a lot of things, but not timid. I suspect that only good things can come of this.

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Bye bye MySQL? Damn this will be interesting to no end!!!

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I'm not sure if this is still the case, but at least prior to the mysql acquisition, Sun employed Josh Berkus, the team lead for PostgreSQL. Hopefully some one can confirm this either way, but if so, I hope we don't loose him to the Oracle DB team.

[CORRECTION] Josh is CEO of PostgreSQL Experts apparently. Still, I wonder if we can expect Postgres support on Solaris to continue. I don't see Oracle wanting to support the 3 relational databases, and Berkely DB.

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I don't think it will be the end of MySQL. I think it will be merged with Oracles lite database product sometime in the future. Oracle will now have a great brand name in the open source market.

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Oracle loves Java, and I can only imagine Java improving with a new driving force. Besides it clear from the anouncements that Oracle will grow Java and Solaris.

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If IBM forks java it will create a muddled community which will lose interest... that would be bad for Java. As for MySql... I don't know what Orcale will do with it but it would be a shame to lose it for those of us that will never be able to afford Oracle (as we're not enterprises). You can hook most common languages these days into MySql in minutes without much research (Java, Any .Net language (C#, VB, Ruby, F#), PHP, Classic ASP, etc.etc. It's not nearly as robust as Oracle or MS-Sql Server but in a good amount of cases it provides just what is needed.

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Not a lot. Sun only make money from Java via consulting etc, and have already open sourced the language itself.

Oracle couldnt 'kill' Java even if they wanted to.